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brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
5/25/2018 6:27 am

Very Funny!!!!


brandygirasol 54T
9365 posts
5/25/2018 9:09 am

NO Vlad I don't take offense ... My Beloved Hero President Trump Will Deal With The Murderous Little Rocket Man NO PROBLEM


Dreamcatcher__ 87M
7019 posts
5/25/2018 9:32 am

An intelligent man learns from his own mistakes. A wise man learns from the mistakes of others. A moron never learns.

__Fu Manchu


footer77 55M  
186 posts
5/25/2018 2:59 pm

Although I have tried to keep politics and STD discussions to a minimum and not participate when either is raised here, you have drawn me into your web.
The North Koreans are like the unruly teenager and China is the parent. If the parent cuts off the child because of embarrassment, cost or other untenable actions, N.Korea will not stand or last on its own. The cardboard cut out that is the set of N.Korea is well braced by China.....

trump was also in chat.............exercise? I thought you said extra rice.


Dreamcatcher__ 87M
7019 posts
5/26/2018 7:59 pm

Although as a boy I idolized General MacArthur and followed the progress of the Korean War daily as the Pusan perimeter grew ever smaller, he was not the brilliant hero he made himself out to be. As I sadly later learned, despite the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, he lined his aircraft up on the taxiways at Clark Air Base so they were sitting ducks for the Japanese, who destroyed them in an air raid the next day. He also ordered his forces to retreat to the Bataan death trap, even though he had not stockpiled necessary supplies or weapons there. He was frustrated by orders not to allow his planes to cross or conduct air raids across the Yalu River into China, but never raided into China. Had he stopped north of Pyongyang where the Korean peninsula narrows, he would have been able to hold an easily defensible line, reducing North Korea to half its present size. Instead, He blindly ordered his troops to move to the banks of the Yalu, totally unaware that the Chinese, fearful of an American army on their border, had infiltrated an immense army into the mountains of North Korea from which areas they attacked his surprised and unprepared troops and drove them back into South Korea.

I recommend a novel by former Senator and Secretary of the Navy Jim Webb, The Emperor's General, which, though fiction, contains an eminently readable and engrossing catalog of unfortunately unflattering facts about MacArthur. I am unaware, however, of any credible allegations that his sins included ignoring President Truman's orders not to violate the Yalu River border. if you can cite any sources for this I'd be interested.


Dreamcatcher__ 87M
7019 posts
5/27/2018 9:55 am

VladVampireLord replies on 5/26/2018 11:20 pm:
warhistoryonline.com/korean-war/us-pilot-chased-mig-china-korean-war_shoot-m-2.html

From my prior reading it is my understanding that US Air Force planes began covertly following MIG Fighters into China with or without approval from high command. The above link mentions one incident.

Although I commend your interest in the Korean War, your understanding of the Chinese involvement is wrong in a number of important respects. It's important to get the sequence right. North Korea attacked South Korea with a force of ten divisions on June 25, 1950. Three of those divisions were actually ethnic Korean divisions from the Chinese Fourth Field Army. Chinese divisions began moving to the Yalu border on October 8. 1950, the day after American troops crossed the 38th parallel into North Korea. The Chinese 270,000-troops-strong assault began on October 25, 1950 (if US planes were crossing the Yalu before the attack they certainly would have noticed that many troops crossing the river). General MacArthur was relieved of command on April 11, 1951. The incident you cite of an American fighter jet following a MIG into China allegedly took place on September 15, 1952, well after MacArthur's departure. I recommend that you confine yourself to reasonably reputable sites like Wikipedia if you insist on using the internet as a resource.



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