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CuntControler 24M
58 posts
2/3/2019 9:15 am
Is this what alt is or am I just on at the wrong time?


I am something of the new guy here so I want to ask the veterans as it may help me avoid waiting a lot of time.

I'm looking for a good sub but what I find on cam here are some unfortunate desperate types always on cam and not taken for obvious reasons, an old bitty that is on a lot, seriously a sorry bitch, and pathetic, a couple of hot girls but they are owned and being shown off by their man hot girls but that's kind of weird I think. Then there are the men that put up films and are acting like they are women.

So I guess I am asking the old timers, is this a place where a guy would meet a decent sub or is what I am seeing all that is available?

CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/3/2019 9:16 am

Is this thing on


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 9:54 am

Why do you conceive of it being "weird" that a Dom would show off or use his sub on cam? Perhaps both parties enjoy this act? I know that I personally enjoy the exhibitionist act of being on cam, and I receive pleasure from responding to my Sir's commands. It is an aspect of our enjoyment of each other...and if you find it weird why do you watch?

There are many components of Alt. There are the blogs, the chat rooms, camming, and IM. All of these components are a way to meet people, and engage in getting to know them. The cam component is relatively limited and underused. Perhaps engaging in conversation, like in real life is the best way to meet someone on Alt.


VladVampireLord 45M  
13505 posts
2/3/2019 10:17 am

Just listen to the music lyrics and it will be alright honey...

Really.

You can't escape the wrath of my heart...


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 10:54 am

    Quoting  :

Wise words in what you wrote. Being aware and paying attention to writing styles and vocabulary are a very good way to find the fakes. I also use the questions asked. Many "women" will come into my room when I am on cam and ask if I am bi. This is a HUGE red flag to me, because most women will read a profile prior to engaging. Men, like with Ikea instructions, skip that step and just ask. (yes, that was sexist and a very broad statement, but I own it).

As one of the "Camwhores" you mention, I will say that is how I found my Sir. I cammed and he came into my room. I had seen, ok, I had been creeping him, and was happy to see him. So happy I closed my cam and ran away I was so nervous! But I found him on IM, and like any relationship we chatted a lot before any more steps were made in our relationship.


Subfantasy67 52M  
100 posts
2/3/2019 11:02 am

You might start by fleshing out your profile a bit. A sub is unlikely to go to a Dom that is hiding in the shadows. There are real subs here that might fit your requirements, but there are as many fake doms as fake subs so everyone is a bit cautious.
You might also take a look at fetlife. It is geared more toward building a real life network of local friends. Submission requires trust, and that means that someone has to know who you really are.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 11:20 am

What others are saying is correct. Most profiles of young women you would want to meet are fake. Not just here, but on every dating site. However, as said, you can communicate with and view the profiles of REAL members via conversations in chat, IM, and blogs.

However, if you are a bonifide member of the "txt" generation; the generation that can't spell multi-syllable words or maintain conversational focus beyond 280 characters, you won't have much success there either. Your age indicates a possible membership in that group which is why I mention it, but engagement with us in intelligent discourse will disprove it, so ....

Additionally, keep in mind this is Alt.com, a platform for ALL alternative lifestyles and kinks and all ages. And exhibitionism is most definitely a kink. The mantra within the majority of the BDSM lifestyle is "Your kink may not be my kink, but your kink is OK". As long as it's SSC, (Safe, Sane & Consensual), or the newer phrase I now prefer, RACK, (Risk Aware Consensual Kink).

In other words, attacking others for doing what they choose to do will be met with derision and ridicule. So, no traction there towards finding a sub either. Try a little respect and conversation. And do remember when/if you start a conversation, she may be a sub, but she's not YOUR sub until she says she is. Initially, Dominants rule because the sub says so.

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CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/3/2019 11:40 am

Thanks for the input you especially daddyslilpunkin. I didn't mean to upset you I do think it's hot how you and your master do the cam stuff its just something a little new to me. I'm just finding my way in this lifestyle and much is new to me. I think in different than some guys according to some dates I go on.

I will keep my eyes open and take some of this advice to good use


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 12:05 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Thanks for the input you especially daddyslilpunkin. I didn't mean to upset you I do think it's hot how you and your master do the cam stuff its just something a little new to me. I'm just finding my way in this lifestyle and much is new to me. I think in different than some guys according to some dates I go on.

    I will keep my eyes open and take some of this advice to good use
As long as I am not one of the "unfortunate desperate types always on cam"....nor "the old bitty that is on a lot, seriously a sorry bitch, and pathetic" you refer to LOL

You did not upset me. I do get offended when I see people in my room watching my shows who then slag or insult the girls on cam. I mean, tbh I have slagged a few myself in my blogs lol..but I am not a viewer or a follower of them

I would also suggest putting a pic up. Any pic. The people without pix, no one takes seriously.


Just_Kitten 39F  
25 posts
2/3/2019 12:15 pm

I agree with all said here. I think it’s important to say that real subs, who want to serve and be owned are going to be picky. Rightly so. I personally like the chat rooms, it’s great to see how people interact with others, learn about their kinks, and see if you have chemistry.


chickadoo 29F  
8 posts
2/3/2019 12:20 pm

Let me get this right.. You are sitting there judging complete strangers who are brave enough to show themselves on cam, and wondering why you can't find anyone?


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 12:32 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    As long as I am not one of the "unfortunate desperate types always on cam"....nor "the old bitty that is on a lot, seriously a sorry bitch, and pathetic" you refer to LOL

    You did not upset me. I do get offended when I see people in my room watching my shows who then slag or insult the girls on cam. I mean, tbh I have slagged a few myself in my blogs lol..but I am not a viewer or a follower of them

    I would also suggest putting a pic up. Any pic. The people without pix, no one takes seriously.
I would suggest he do a lot more than that. For starters, learn how to spell his screen name correctly. (Controller has two l's) His profile is a joke, and of the type that I use to identify a fake female profile. There is no Intro, no Ideal Person, no Lifestyle answers, no Kinks section, and he only answered 5 questions in the Information section, and there is no reference whatsoever; I repeat zero, zip, nada, zilch, nine; to the BDSM or kink lifestyle. AND, of course, no pics.

These are all signs of someone who is not serious in their search, and no one who is would even consider responding to such a profile.. Finding "the one" is difficult enough without handicapping yourself right up front.
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CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/3/2019 12:37 pm

    Quoting chickadoo:
    Let me get this right.. You are sitting there judging complete strangers who are brave enough to show themselves on cam, and wondering why you can't find anyone?
I am judging those I have seen both positively and negatively, we judge people every day in every place. Just as you are talking a stab at judging me here and now.

It's not that I don't find someone and dates, I'm asking if alt is another good place to look or not.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 12:40 pm

What's that? You joined this site and hot sex slaves didn't fawn all over you, within the first 48 hours? How could that possibly be? I'm shocked! I mean don't they know who you are?

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 12:46 pm

    Quoting sub_nouveau:
    What's that? You joined this site and hot sex slaves didn't fawn all over you, within the first 48 hours? How could that possibly be? I'm shocked! I mean don't they know who you are?
I don;t know you...but I think I adore you

Aren't all of us subs just waiting at the door like a excited puppy waiting for the perfect nonpicture, arrogant dom to open the door?


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 12:57 pm

    Quoting chickadoo:
    Let me get this right.. You are sitting there judging complete strangers who are brave enough to show themselves on cam, and wondering why you can't find anyone?


Kudos. Literary "compression of thought" is something I still struggle with to this day!


Subfantasy67 52M  
100 posts
2/3/2019 1:02 pm

    Quoting sub_nouveau:
    What's that? You joined this site and hot sex slaves didn't fawn all over you, within the first 48 hours? How could that possibly be? I'm shocked! I mean don't they know who you are?
Is it proper to bow to a sub? No matter. I'm bowing to you.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 1:05 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I don;t know you...but I think I adore you

    Aren't all of us subs just waiting at the door like a excited puppy waiting for the perfect nonpicture, arrogant dom to open the door?
Why thank you, Sweet Lady And yes, yes we are!
I don't know about you, but I have a particular preference for boys who thrive on porn, and think by referring to themselves as "Dom" that subs from everywhere will swarm them, because they're exactly the one we've all been sitting around hoping for. It's even better if they have no manners, as that means we'll have the joy of receiving their insults too. I mean how lucky are we?

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 1:07 pm

    Quoting Subfantasy67:
    Is it proper to bow to a sub? No matter. I'm bowing to you.
I have been known to be the Alpha sub on occasion, so feel free. And thank you

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 1:08 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I don;t know you...but I think I adore you

    Aren't all of us subs just waiting at the door like a excited puppy waiting for the perfect nonpicture, arrogant dom to open the door?
I believe I'll bow out of this now and leave it to the women. My old knives aren't nearly as sharp!!


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/3/2019 1:08 pm

Actually no they clearly do not know who I am and it is clear that I don't know who they are. There's the rub. Aside from a couple of unpleasant sorts ive seen, and not just from a physical unpleasant aspect but having a personality that at least I think is unpleasant and another couple of hot girls that are happily taken I have not even actually seen anything that is genuine.

So the question is still is alt a site where an actual contact is made are these alleged "hot sex slaves" even an available reality? Because the good ones are not, the others I've seen are not qualifying as "hot sex slaves".

So let's focus on the issue of this post, is alt a good source to meet a potential partner or not.

P.S. I'm more a cat person, but puppies can be irresistible..


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 1:18 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Actually no they clearly do not know who I am and it is clear that I don't know who they are. There's the rub. Aside from a couple of unpleasant sorts ive seen, and not just from a physical unpleasant aspect but having a personality that at least I think is unpleasant and another couple of hot girls that are happily taken I have not even actually seen anything that is genuine.

    So the question is still is alt a site where an actual contact is made are these alleged "hot sex slaves" even an available reality? Because the good ones are not, the others I've seen are not qualifying as "hot sex slaves".

    So let's focus on the issue of this post, is alt a good source to meet a potential partner or not.

    P.S. I'm more a cat person, but puppies can be irresistible..
but I think you are missing the obvious. Whomever these "hot subs" are you are referencing that are taken...they are taken cause the Dom spoke to them, spent time, got to know them. Us "taken" subs did not arrive on Alt as such. We met our Dom's here. (well some of us). So in fact that answers your question: yes, you can find a partner on Alt.

What we are all telling you is, change your profile, put up a pic, venture into other areas of alt. You have to engage. Even us girls on cam, want to know who you are...we want to know something about you. We want an image. You have to engage in conversation.

Yes, we are being sassy...but walking into Alt, and then presuming you will find someone right away seems a little...well arrogant.


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 1:21 pm

    Quoting sub_nouveau:
    Why thank you, Sweet Lady And yes, yes we are!
    I don't know about you, but I have a particular preference for boys who thrive on porn, and think by referring to themselves as "Dom" that subs from everywhere will swarm them, because they're exactly the one we've all been sitting around hoping for. It's even better if they have no manners, as that means we'll have the joy of receiving their insults too. I mean how lucky are we?
I count my blessings every single day that I receive a message from a "dom" who can't be bothered to read my profile, who thinks I will instantaneously serve him, and who insults me if I don't submit....
It's truly amazing how we can go from the hottest thing ever to a fat, ugly, bitch in mere seconds when we do not as commanded by a rando! My whole self esteem rests upon how they respond to me!


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 1:30 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Actually no they clearly do not know who I am and it is clear that I don't know who they are. There's the rub. Aside from a couple of unpleasant sorts ive seen, and not just from a physical unpleasant aspect but having a personality that at least I think is unpleasant and another couple of hot girls that are happily taken I have not even actually seen anything that is genuine.

    So the question is still is alt a site where an actual contact is made are these alleged "hot sex slaves" even an available reality? Because the good ones are not, the others I've seen are not qualifying as "hot sex slaves".

    So let's focus on the issue of this post, is alt a good source to meet a potential partner or not.

    P.S. I'm more a cat person, but puppies can be irresistible..
Hmmm... so how does one get to know others? Perhaps a person should start by sharing something about themselves, as an invitation for others to share something themselves. A bit like a conversation starter, in the real world. Now that could work, but how could one accomplish that on a website such as Alt? Perhaps a person could create a meaningful profile, for potentials to read and assess for compatibility. I wonder if Alt provides for such a thing? I mean it is an introductory site, so you'd hope they'd have the capability for people to build enlightening profiles. Oh wait! They do have! Wow! Who knew?!!! Well, we all do now...
And gee, I wonder how a person might best start a conversation with others? Perhaps by hurling insults at them? I mean they are subs, and all subs love to be insulted...

Let's get real. People do meet and form relationships on Alt (there's quite a few of us who found are partners here, as is obvious in our blogs). But just like anywhere else, it takes time and effort, and it doesn't happen over night. If you treat this site like an online catalogue, you will be disappointed. D/s isn't about sex, so if that's what you're looking for (which is all I can fathom, given your lack of investment in your profile and your impatience), then don't call yourself Dom as you're marketing yourself to the wrong audience.

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 1:30 pm

OK, back in! Responding to the OP ... (not going to quote the whole damn post!), You want an answer? You have the ability to create a poll in your blog. "How many have met their LTR on Alt?" As for me, I met my last sub which then became my wife and the relationship lasted for 17 years, right here on Alt.com.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 1:41 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I count my blessings every single day that I receive a message from a "dom" who can't be bothered to read my profile, who thinks I will instantaneously serve him, and who insults me if I don't submit....
    It's truly amazing how we can go from the hottest thing ever to a fat, ugly, bitch in mere seconds when we do not as commanded by a rando! My whole self esteem rests upon how they respond to me!
It's so refreshing to speak with a Dom who understands & appreciates the sub is actually in the position of power, until such time as she chooses to submit. Few and far between... But at least you and I don't need to worry about that, because we're already in D/s dynamics

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/3/2019 1:47 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    but I think you are missing the obvious. Whomever these "hot subs" are you are referencing that are taken...they are taken cause the Dom spoke to them, spent time, got to know them. Us "taken" subs did not arrive on Alt as such. We met our Dom's here. (well some of us). So in fact that answers your question: yes, you can find a partner on Alt.

    What we are all telling you is, change your profile, put up a pic, venture into other areas of alt. You have to engage. Even us girls on cam, want to know who you are...we want to know something about you. We want an image. You have to engage in conversation.

    Yes, we are being sassy...but walking into Alt, and then presuming you will find someone right away seems a little...well arrogant.
So thank you. A reasonable answer to the question at hand.

I hadn't missed the point since I did mention that I was going to take some of these helpful suggestions to heart.

I can't be the only person that have read what is posted here and questioned the accuracy of what was said. Btw so far I'm not able to read profiles and much of the purpose of my question has to do with whether or not alt was a site worth paying for.

I do think that the answer could have provided sans so much sassyness and I will admit this would not be the first time someone has said something about me being arrogant, and I don't think it will be the last.

But thank you for your answer. If your master found you here I am going to think that this site is a reasonable source.


olderdaddyforyou 63M
262 posts
2/3/2019 2:00 pm

I don't make a habit of viewing men's profiles but I did view yours controler and I must say....you will never meet anyone with a blank profile and a silhouette for a pic.
I would suggest taking sub_nouveau's tongue in cheek sarcasm and punkin's words of advice and use it as a lesson learned. Yes there are some real subs on here and maybe if you take some advice you will someday meet one of your own.

BTW I did meet a submissive on here years ago under a different screen name. Unfortunately she had to move because of family issues so here I am again.
I guess good luck, you will need it, is all I can say.


SirStevenandsubs 57G  
31 posts
2/3/2019 3:45 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    I don;t know you...but I think I adore you

    Aren't all of us subs just waiting at the door like a excited puppy waiting for the perfect nonpicture, arrogant dom to open the door?
Becky, what have I told you about running about unsupervised?


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 4:33 pm

    Quoting Onegun:
    OK, back in! Responding to the OP ... (not going to quote the whole damn post!), You want an answer? You have the ability to create a poll in your blog. "How many have met their LTR on Alt?" As for me, I met my last sub which then became my wife and the relationship lasted for 17 years, right here on Alt.com.
wow now that is a love story! You married her and met here? Awwww This is a post that I love


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/3/2019 5:07 pm

    Quoting SirStevenandsubs:
    Becky, what have I told you about running about unsupervised?
But I can;t help I'm adorably sassy and flirty!!! Sorry sir...well not really cause you chuckled. xxx


SirStevenandsubs 57G  
31 posts
2/3/2019 7:35 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    But I can;t help I'm adorably sassy and flirty!!! Sorry sir...well not really cause you chuckled. xxx
I know exactly how adorable you are, and give this young fellow a break. His concerns are very much in line with what I see as what is "wrong" with alt. A benefit of the doubt maybe.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/3/2019 7:41 pm

    Quoting Onegun:
    OK, back in! Responding to the OP ... (not going to quote the whole damn post!), You want an answer? You have the ability to create a poll in your blog. "How many have met their LTR on Alt?" As for me, I met my last sub which then became my wife and the relationship lasted for 17 years, right here on Alt.com.
How wonderful! I've met a number of people who met their partners on Alt, and some who went on to marry them. I personally think that any one who is genuine in wanting to find a LTR here, has that opportunity, but it does take a big investment in time and willingness to trust (without being naive).

Personally, I've made some great friends here; had a few short term, fun adventures; found a Dom who I thought at the time may have been my one, but turned out he wasn't; and finally did meet my one, My Sir, whom I've been in a relationship with for 2.5 years, very happily.

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/3/2019 7:45 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    wow now that is a love story! You married her and met here? Awwww This is a post that I love
We did. In late 2000 we met, emailed back and forth every single day almost from the beginning, spoke voice at least once a week, and she drove down here, (Florida), from Ohio to meet me twice. Once by herself for Thanksgiving 2000, and again with her 6 year old daughter for New Years 2001. By May 2001, she moved here permanently. We married Thanksgiving of 2003, and that 6 year old is now a college graduate and an RN.

So, as others have said, yes, there are worthwhile people to be found on Alt.com.

And for any who are interested, I will post a pic of the three of us on my blog. Gimme a couple ....


VladVampireLord 45M  
13505 posts
2/4/2019 9:05 am

And the walls came down
All the way to hell
Never saw them when they're standing
Never saw them when they fell

You can't escape the wrath of my heart...


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/4/2019 11:11 am

    Quoting VladVampireLord:
    And the walls came down
    All the way to hell
    Never saw them when they're standing
    Never saw them when they fell
Onegun you can smack talk all you like. The proper spelling was already taken so I improvised. I can spell and at least I am not this vlad creep.

To the others that were helpful thank you, to the haters and the guy acting as a chick I am getting used to the environment. I will expect nothing of substance from this sort.


Daddyslilpunkin 42F  
161 posts
2/4/2019 1:48 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Onegun you can smack talk all you like. The proper spelling was already taken so I improvised. I can spell and at least I am not this vlad creep.

    To the others that were helpful thank you, to the haters and the guy acting as a chick I am getting used to the environment. I will expect nothing of substance from this sort.
Who is the guy acting like a chick on here? I'm confused sorry....


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/4/2019 2:57 pm

    Quoting Daddyslilpunkin:
    Who is the guy acting like a chick on here? I'm confused sorry....
Well punkin its not you. I have seen for myself how real you are.

It is that sub_nouveau that I am guessing is a guy.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/4/2019 6:26 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Onegun you can smack talk all you like. The proper spelling was already taken so I improvised. I can spell and at least I am not this vlad creep.

    To the others that were helpful thank you, to the haters and the guy acting as a chick I am getting used to the environment. I will expect nothing of substance from this sort.
CC, I have no idea what makes you think sub_nouveau is a man, particularly since you've admitted you can't read profiles here! But if she were, so what? This is Alt! There are straights, bi's, gays, cross-dressers, trans folk, et.al here, and they belong here! Remember? "Your kink may not be my kink, but your kink is OK?"

Secondly, this is not a dating app that requires no more commitment than "slide left, slide right, and let's hang out". This is a REAL community of like minded people, and in communities, each one of us has a secondary purpose. A job, if you will. And one of the jobs of the more experienced Doms is to try and steer the newer ones in the right direction. Not just about how to handle a flogger or a single tail whip, but about how to treat your sub, how to treat another's sub, and how to treat the community in general. So, long story short, I'm not talking smack, I'm just doing my job and trying to educate you on how to behave in this community ... trying to enlighten you to the fact that Archie Bunker was NOT a Dom. (Google it!)

But speaking of users and abusers, your are spot on about that "Vlad creep". He posts little to no original content, and he spams everyone else's blog by posting irrelevant lyrics that no one asked for, no one wants, and that are available to anyone on Google. What he gets are points for posting/responding to blogs, both his own and yours! So he's using your blog for his own personal gain. By all means, block him from posting on your blog. I banned him from mine 60 secods after his first post. He's worthless.


Eientsumi 28M  
25 posts
2/4/2019 10:37 pm

    Quoting Onegun:
    CC, I have no idea what makes you think sub_nouveau is a man, particularly since you've admitted you can't read profiles here! But if she were, so what? This is Alt! There are straights, bi's, gays, cross-dressers, trans folk, et.al here, and they belong here! Remember? "Your kink may not be my kink, but your kink is OK?"

    Secondly, this is not a dating app that requires no more commitment than "slide left, slide right, and let's hang out". This is a REAL community of like minded people, and in communities, each one of us has a secondary purpose. A job, if you will. And one of the jobs of the more experienced Doms is to try and steer the newer ones in the right direction. Not just about how to handle a flogger or a single tail whip, but about how to treat your sub, how to treat another's sub, and how to treat the community in general. So, long story short, I'm not talking smack, I'm just doing my job and trying to educate you on how to behave in this community ... trying to enlighten you to the fact that Archie Bunker was NOT a Dom. (Google it!)

    But speaking of users and abusers, your are spot on about that "Vlad creep". He posts little to no original content, and he spams everyone else's blog by posting irrelevant lyrics that no one asked for, no one wants, and that are available to anyone on Google. What he gets are points for posting/responding to blogs, both his own and yours! So he's using your blog for his own personal gain. By all means, block him from posting on your blog. I banned him from mine 60 secods after his first post. He's worthless.
My thought on vlad :

He spends probably 1-2 hours a day racking up points to get Alt gold membership. Alt currently costs $12.50 a month. That means Vlad's time is worth an average of 21-41 cents an hour. The average male lives 669,264 hours, and thus his life is worth approximately $137,199.12 to $274,398.24. If you want to only consider working life span (starting at 18 years old), his life becomes worth $104,874.72 to $209,749.44.

In any case, I know yet am completely unable to understand the mentality that people should bow before you when you walk in the room. All my life I was taught that to outsiders, I will always be a zero. Doesn't matter if I'm the smartest person or most handsome, people will not bow to me if I don't earn the respect first. Even then, the people who truly care about you will be family and maybe a few select close friends. My dad always taught me that only when you are in financial need will you find out who your true friends are.


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/5/2019 4:25 pm

    Quoting Onegun:
    CC, I have no idea what makes you think sub_nouveau is a man, particularly since you've admitted you can't read profiles here! But if she were, so what? This is Alt! There are straights, bi's, gays, cross-dressers, trans folk, et.al here, and they belong here! Remember? "Your kink may not be my kink, but your kink is OK?"

    Secondly, this is not a dating app that requires no more commitment than "slide left, slide right, and let's hang out". This is a REAL community of like minded people, and in communities, each one of us has a secondary purpose. A job, if you will. And one of the jobs of the more experienced Doms is to try and steer the newer ones in the right direction. Not just about how to handle a flogger or a single tail whip, but about how to treat your sub, how to treat another's sub, and how to treat the community in general. So, long story short, I'm not talking smack, I'm just doing my job and trying to educate you on how to behave in this community ... trying to enlighten you to the fact that Archie Bunker was NOT a Dom. (Google it!)

    But speaking of users and abusers, your are spot on about that "Vlad creep". He posts little to no original content, and he spams everyone else's blog by posting irrelevant lyrics that no one asked for, no one wants, and that are available to anyone on Google. What he gets are points for posting/responding to blogs, both his own and yours! So he's using your blog for his own personal gain. By all means, block him from posting on your blog. I banned him from mine 60 secods after his first post. He's worthless.
Thanks onegin and while I will admit I am not an old hand at this and some sound advice will always be welcomed one of the points to this original thread had to do with the concept of people being genuine or bogus.

Someone mentioned doing an image search and the like and that one came up as stock images that and a general vibe I got from his comments. So credibility means something to me and from the limited observations I can make that one comes off as a pretender. If you are gay, straight, trans, or whatever I could care less. If you are a fraud that speaks to one of and maybe the more important part of my initial question.

So thank for the guidance and as time permits I will make changes to my profile and give it a shot.


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/5/2019 4:31 pm

    Quoting Eientsumi:
    My thought on vlad :

    He spends probably 1-2 hours a day racking up points to get Alt gold membership. Alt currently costs $12.50 a month. That means Vlad's time is worth an average of 21-41 cents an hour. The average male lives 669,264 hours, and thus his life is worth approximately $137,199.12 to $274,398.24. If you want to only consider working life span (starting at 18 years old), his life becomes worth $104,874.72 to $209,749.44.

    In any case, I know yet am completely unable to understand the mentality that people should bow before you when you walk in the room. All my life I was taught that to outsiders, I will always be a zero. Doesn't matter if I'm the smartest person or most handsome, people will not bow to me if I don't earn the respect first. Even then, the people who truly care about you will be family and maybe a few select close friends. My dad always taught me that only when you are in financial need will you find out who your true friends are.
Nowhere had I suggested anyone bow to me, not yet anyway but there has been something that has been read into my post, again the original question was is this a good avenue to meet a quality genuine sub or are the good ones taken the others either unpleasant or total posers.

Once again thank those that have offered helpful comments.


Subfantasy67 52M  
100 posts
2/9/2019 8:11 am

At the risk of beating a dead horse:
1. Yes. You can find quality people here. Possibly even some that share your particular vision of what Alt means.
2. By definition, Alt is not mainstream. That means you are likely to have to broaden your search both geographically and philosophically in order to find a match.
3. We all understand that some have to operate "under the radar", but you don't necessarily have to have a face pic to prove you are real. Multiple pics identifiable as the same person that don't show up on reverse image search are a good start.
4. Bots and scammers don't carry on conversations. Spend some time in chat, blogs, community. People will know you are real and vice versa. This is also a good way for non gold members to communicate.
5. Speaking of community, there are tons of interest groups. If it appeals to you, there are likely people there that will interest you.
6. Networking works. People you get to know will know other people. Nothing in the alt world will get you in better than a trusted referral.
7. All subs are not created equal. Your profile is the first tool subs will use to screen you. If I don't like pain, and your profile says Sadist. I save us both time by skipping over. This is a good time to mention that it pays to be honest about your sexuality, kinks, desires, etc.
8. Last but not least; If you are an actually an asshole Dom, own it. There are some subs that love it. They will respond well, and the others will know to steer clear.

Please know that I am actually trying to be helpful, not sarcastic or mean in any way.


SirStevenandsubs 57G  
31 posts
2/10/2019 3:16 pm

I had to dig this old thread up just to mention that although I cant see everything this kid has posted I kinda like the guy based on what I hear.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/10/2019 7:11 pm

CC said, "Nowhere had I suggested anyone bow to me, not yet anyway but there has been something that has been read into my post"

It ain't about you, CC, he's talking about Vlad the Sad. His profile instructs strangers to bow before him. But see how this guy interferes with everything on Alt?
He's got us talking about him on your blog! Please block him.

Now back to you, I'm sure you have been wondering, "What the fuck did I do wrong?" Well, what you did is tantamount to walking into a neighborhood bar on a busy night, taking two swigs out of your beer, and standing up to ask, "What the fuck is wrong with this place? This place is shit!" You might imagine that you'd ruffle a few feathers among the regulars. And that's what happened here!

On sub_nouveau: You are right in one regard; she has 40 pictures posted and not a single one of them is her. In her defense, however, she tells you that 39 of them are "not her", but inspirational. She is wrong, however, in leaving the implication that the cover picture of the novel BDSM Bodyswap is actually her. Bad move. But then again, she engages with people here in these blogs. She has a 51 page blog herself. She writes with intuitiveness and (to my mind) from a female perspective And the advice she gives, (whether accepted or not), is often sound. Hmm.

So what are we to think? Is she male, is she female, is she trans? Wrong questions. Right question is: Does it matter? Well, not to me. Reason? Because valid information is valid information regardless of the source. Take me, for instance. I'm a die hard, card carrying atheist. Of the learned variety, not the bar stool type. Yet, I find there is some valid information in the bible. Not much, mind you, and what there is was plagiarized from older sources, but valid info nonetheless, and I don't disregard it because of its source. So to me, sub-nouveau's gender is irrelevant.

Secondly, we don't know her reason for being partially anonymous. She may well be a doctor in a vary conservative hospital and using her own pic would eventually cost her job. Or she could be M2F trans-gendered, in which case the proper way to refer to her is in the feminine.

But in my mind, dispensation is granted base on service to the community.

SS&s, I kinda like the guy too based on the "willing to learn" tone his answers have been taking of late, but he still hasn't changed a thing on his profile.


buddhalovestud 59M  
17529 posts
2/12/2019 8:43 am

alt is good for whatever works for you

find the niche and enjoy it, good looking,available cam girls is not a strong option

good luck, been here 14+ years

Qu'ils mangent de la brioche


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/12/2019 7:03 pm

CC said "Thanks onegin and while I will admit I am not an old hand at this".

Just a minor correction here CC. It's Onegun, not oneGIN! Because I never had one gin in my life! If that's all there was left in the bottle, I'd give it to some amateur drinker!!


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/15/2019 4:16 pm

    Quoting Onegun:
    CC said, "Nowhere had I suggested anyone bow to me, not yet anyway but there has been something that has been read into my post"

    It ain't about you, CC, he's talking about Vlad the Sad. His profile instructs strangers to bow before him. But see how this guy interferes with everything on Alt?
    He's got us talking about him on your blog! Please block him.

    Now back to you, I'm sure you have been wondering, "What the fuck did I do wrong?" Well, what you did is tantamount to walking into a neighborhood bar on a busy night, taking two swigs out of your beer, and standing up to ask, "What the fuck is wrong with this place? This place is shit!" You might imagine that you'd ruffle a few feathers among the regulars. And that's what happened here!

    On sub_nouveau: You are right in one regard; she has 40 pictures posted and not a single one of them is her. In her defense, however, she tells you that 39 of them are "not her", but inspirational. She is wrong, however, in leaving the implication that the cover picture of the novel BDSM Bodyswap is actually her. Bad move. But then again, she engages with people here in these blogs. She has a 51 page blog herself. She writes with intuitiveness and (to my mind) from a female perspective And the advice she gives, (whether accepted or not), is often sound. Hmm.

    So what are we to think? Is she male, is she female, is she trans? Wrong questions. Right question is: Does it matter? Well, not to me. Reason? Because valid information is valid information regardless of the source. Take me, for instance. I'm a die hard, card carrying atheist. Of the learned variety, not the bar stool type. Yet, I find there is some valid information in the bible. Not much, mind you, and what there is was plagiarized from older sources, but valid info nonetheless, and I don't disregard it because of its source. So to me, sub-nouveau's gender is irrelevant.

    Secondly, we don't know her reason for being partially anonymous. She may well be a doctor in a vary conservative hospital and using her own pic would eventually cost her job. Or she could be M2F trans-gendered, in which case the proper way to refer to her is in the feminine.

    But in my mind, dispensation is granted base on service to the community.

    SS&s, I kinda like the guy too based on the "willing to learn" tone his answers have been taking of late, but he still hasn't changed a thing on his profile.
Well Onegun, you're partially correct, and thanks for attempting to explain my situation. To clarify, my profile pic is not me, and that's why it is named "Not Me" - just like the pic album that I have that states those pics aren't of me. I am honest about my profile pic and if I think anyone I'm chatting or blogging with has mistaken that pic to be of me - I immediately inform them (obviously the name on the pic isn't sufficient for people to determine themselves that it's not me). I'm not out to deceive anyone, and am always upfront with any genuine people here - perhaps that's why I've been so successful in making the friendships I have, as well as finding My Sir. I also have an album of pics of me on here, but I have had to make that accessible to "Friends only".

Out of respect for My Hubby & My Sir, I protect my identity as none of us are in professions that would be understanding of our sexual proclivities. And there are malicious individuals & stalkers on this site.

With regards to CC's conclusions, quite frankly, I couldn't care less. It's not a thing that warrants my attention.

All the best to you Onegun

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


SquirtMasterQ 52M
782 posts
2/15/2019 8:13 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    Well punkin its not you. I have seen for myself how real you are.

    It is that sub_nouveau that I am guessing is a guy.
Perhaps you should fucking know what you are talking about before you insult my sub, you fucking cunt!
It's morons like you who blames everyone else because you cannot find someone here because of the way you come out making accusing statements about women you don't even know! sub_nouveau has the best female attributes to offer, something a moron like you will never ever get to try. Why don't you go fuck a guy because clearly your attitude will never draw you to a real woman or any woman for that matter! Now fuck off and leave my princess sub-nouveau alone.


SquirtMasterQ 52M
782 posts
2/15/2019 8:14 pm

BT you are a fucking 24YO moron, why don't you go back and suck on some more maternal tits before you start shooting your mouth off!

Perhaps you should fucking know what you are talking about before you insult my sub, you fucking cunt!
It's morons like you who blames everyone else because you cannot find someone here because of the way you come out making accusing statements about women you don't even know! sub_nouveau has the best female attributes to offer, something a moron like you will never ever get to try. Why don't you go fuck a guy because clearly your attitude will never draw you to a real woman or any woman for that matter! Now fuck off and leave my princess sub-nouveau alone.


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/16/2019 6:57 pm

I am young, but far from being a moron. A moron would be some loser old guy that pretends to be a woman. An even bigger moron would be some loser old guy that pretends to be a woman with several account one pretending to be "protecting" his other fake account.

Don't be all tore up that I don't fall for it, like I said, I am not a moron. But don't cry, there are plenty here that are desperate enough to gobble it up.

I'll admit I have things to learn, and I will. I am not some shut in incel. I know girls, I have a particular taste that is not always available in the general population so I wanted to look in a specialized market. So that is why I am here and looking.


Onegun 66M  
25 posts
2/16/2019 9:57 pm

    Quoting sub_nouveau:
    Well Onegun, you're partially correct, and thanks for attempting to explain my situation. To clarify, my profile pic is not me, and that's why it is named "Not Me" - just like the pic album that I have that states those pics aren't of me. I am honest about my profile pic and if I think anyone I'm chatting or blogging with has mistaken that pic to be of me - I immediately inform them (obviously the name on the pic isn't sufficient for people to determine themselves that it's not me). I'm not out to deceive anyone, and am always upfront with any genuine people here - perhaps that's why I've been so successful in making the friendships I have, as well as finding My Sir. I also have an album of pics of me on here, but I have had to make that accessible to "Friends only".

    Out of respect for My Hubby & My Sir, I protect my identity as none of us are in professions that would be understanding of our sexual proclivities. And there are malicious individuals & stalkers on this site.

    With regards to CC's conclusions, quite frankly, I couldn't care less. It's not a thing that warrants my attention.

    All the best to you Onegun
My sincerest apologies, sub_nouveau, I overlooked that! The reason, (because there HAS to be a reason when a Dom makes a mistake!), is that the "Not me" tag does not show up on the profile page. So then I click to the Pics page, and there's the Profile pic that I've already seen before, but my attention is wrenched away violently by the lead-in pic of the second album .. a perfectly proportioned slut in heels and black stockings stretched & tied bare-ass'd over and to the frame of the bed's foot board, totally exposed, just BEGGING to be .... Oh. Getting sidetracked again.

Anyway, am I really to blame for missing the "Not me" over the second profile pic?


Eientsumi 28M  
25 posts
2/16/2019 10:45 pm

    Quoting CuntControler:
    I am young, but far from being a moron. A moron would be some loser old guy that pretends to be a woman. An even bigger moron would be some loser old guy that pretends to be a woman with several account one pretending to be "protecting" his other fake account.

    Don't be all tore up that I don't fall for it, like I said, I am not a moron. But don't cry, there are plenty here that are desperate enough to gobble it up.

    I'll admit I have things to learn, and I will. I am not some shut in incel. I know girls, I have a particular taste that is not always available in the general population so I wanted to look in a specialized market. So that is why I am here and looking.
You know, my personal thought was that SquirtMasterQ's response was an overreaction, but your response made you appear like a complete ass, especially with those unfounded and inflammatory accusations. You should have let this thread die, and that would have been that. Or at least keep your response civil and polite. But nope, in saying you are not a moron with an extremely inflammatory post, you have just made yourself appear like an even bigger moron.


dairycowkeeper 65M
23 posts
2/17/2019 12:30 am

it is as it is


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/17/2019 1:22 am

    Quoting Onegun:
    My sincerest apologies, sub_nouveau, I overlooked that! The reason, (because there HAS to be a reason when a Dom makes a mistake!), is that the "Not me" tag does not show up on the profile page. So then I click to the Pics page, and there's the Profile pic that I've already seen before, but my attention is wrenched away violently by the lead-in pic of the second album .. a perfectly proportioned slut in heels and black stockings stretched & tied bare-ass'd over and to the frame of the bed's foot board, totally exposed, just BEGGING to be .... Oh. Getting sidetracked again.

    Anyway, am I really to blame for missing the "Not me" over the second profile pic?
Thank you for your apology Onegun, but there's no need. I appreciate the title on the profile pic I use, isn't readily visible (only visible from my albums page), so no harm done. And I know what you mean about the lead pic on my "Inspirations" album... Glad to know you enjoy her too

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


sub_nouveau 49F  
9623 posts
2/17/2019 1:32 am

    Quoting Eientsumi:
    You know, my personal thought was that SquirtMasterQ's response was an overreaction, but your response made you appear like a complete ass, especially with those unfounded and inflammatory accusations. You should have let this thread die, and that would have been that. Or at least keep your response civil and polite. But nope, in saying you are not a moron with an extremely inflammatory post, you have just made yourself appear like an even bigger moron.
Thank you Eientsumi. I appreciate your logic, and hope this thread is left to die. Far too much energy has already been expended on this nonsense and I have nothing to prove to anyone. Those who matter to me, know who I am & who My Sir is and there's nothing more to say.

Let's talk. It's how we learn about yesterday and comprehend today.


CuntControler 24M
14 posts
2/17/2019 9:35 am

    Quoting Eientsumi:
    You know, my personal thought was that SquirtMasterQ's response was an overreaction, but your response made you appear like a complete ass, especially with those unfounded and inflammatory accusations. You should have let this thread die, and that would have been that. Or at least keep your response civil and polite. But nope, in saying you are not a moron with an extremely inflammatory post, you have just made yourself appear like an even bigger moron.
I told you there would be a gobbler.

I am sure there's going to be more.


Eientsumi 28M  
25 posts
2/17/2019 10:39 am

    Quoting CuntControler:
    I told you there would be a gobbler.

    I am sure there's going to be more.
Yep, continue destroying whatever goodwill you might have had in this community. Just remember you did this to yourself.

And also, good luck finding yourself a sub when you continue to prove that you are just an immature brat.


Jinali 39F  
52 posts
2/18/2019 12:02 am

Ewww, ask a veteran? They've just pillaged and taxed everything. Start fresh...bring your own trash or whatever. People need to let go of old baggage and claims.



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